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« on: January 26, 2010, 12:17:31 AM » |
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We've now discussed Creatine Monohydrate & CEE and their usage amounts. There are still two forms of Creatine left to cover.
3) Creatine Malate is a fairly rare form of Creatine that is generally used in addition to other forms of Creatine. There's a specific reason for this. Creatine Malate is Creatine Monohydrate bonded to Malic Acid. In order for Creatine to effectively bond to an Acid, which typically breaks Creatine Monohydrate down to Creatinine quickly, three Creatine Monohydrate molecules must bond to 1 Malic Acid molecule. This is generally difficult to do, and the resulting powder is rather unstable on its own. It also interacts very easily with gaseous forms which will break the bond between the Malic Acid and the Creatine Monohydrate. It is also the most costly form of Creatine to produce because of it's unstable nature.
The benefit of Creatine Malate, is that it blends with water easily, as the malic acid combines with the water because of the stronger chemical attraction, than Creatine Monohydrate has to water. Meaning it doesn't break down into Creatinine very easily in water. This helps with gastro-intestinal issues. The second benefit of this, is water bonded with the Creatine Malate is then transfered throughout the body quickly.
The downside to the bonding to water, is that the Malate doesn't release it's bond very easily. Meaning that some of the Creatine Malate is simply flushed through the system without entering the muscle cells.
Creatine Malate is generally not sold on it's own, and is generally sold in a blend of Creatines, as it's a faster absorbing Creatine than other forms like CEE or Kre-Alkalyn, and is mostly used to promote a quicker absorbtion while you wait for the longer absorbing Creatines enter the blood stream. So there are no recommended dosages for Creatine Malate individually.
4) Kre-Alkalyn is the newest form of Creatine. It was patented in 2008. The author of the patent for Kre-Alkalyn is the same person who discovered Arginine Alpha Keto Gluturate (AAKG) converted to Nitic Oxide in the muscles, and how NO benefited weight lifters.
In his research he found that Creatine Monohydrate broke down extremely quickly in high pH environments to Creatinine, and because of the acidic environment of the human stomach, Creatine Monohydrate was only half, or less, effective as it could be if it was more stable.
Kre-Alkalyn is just Creatine Monohydrate that has a pH buffer. What this scientifically means, is that during the manufacturing process, the Creatine on the molecular level, artificially has its pH levels raised by adding a positively charged ion to the compound. Therefore producing an "acid" like quality. Because the Creatine has this positive pH level, your stomach acids are repelled and don't interact with the Creatine to break it down into Creatinine. (Think two positively charged magnates)
A great benefit of having the Creatine staying in its pure form, is that it then doesn't have any fillers attached to it which may block the absorption of it into the muscles. This form delivers the purest form of Creatine to the muscle cells, therefore giving the best performance.
The exciting part, is that because it absorbs at the correct rate, while attracting the correct amount of sodium into the muscles, which in turn add to the available energy for the muscle fiber, there isn't as much water absorbed into muscle fibers as other forms, which allows more water to be readily available for other cells, and reducing the "bloat" to next to zero.
This has a lesser effect of having a less volumizing effect while on Kre-Alkalyn, but also more gains are retained after a cycle, because less water is flushed from the muscle fibers.
All of these factors point to Kre-Alkalyn being the best performing Creatine on the market, with the least opportunity for negative side effects from use.
Because Kre-Alkalyn does not break down into Creatinine very easily, and is easily absorbed into the muscle fibers, regular dosages are 3G~6G per day.
Although Kre-Alkalyn has been shown to generally work for most individuals, those with lower pH levels of stomach acid, have been shown to have a lower rate of return from Kre-Alkalyn because the acids in their stomachs are more likely to interact with the buffered Creatine, causing it to break down more into Creatinine. Unfortunately it's extremely hard to test for pH levels of stomach acids, so the only way to know what you have is to try out the different forms and see which ones work best.
So those are the different forms of Creatine. In Part IV - General Questions, we'll cover a few of the questions that continually come up, as well as some pointers for effective Creatine use.
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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2010, 03:48:47 AM » |
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Now I am confused doesn't lowering the pH cause some thing to be more acidic? Raising it will make it less acidic and more base like. Stomach acid is around 1-2 on the pH scale and water is 7. I would think that the name Alkalyn comes from Alkali. Alkali are bases that are water soluble. That would mean that the pH of Kre-Alkalyn is raised to make it more base like. That would make sense then in that it neutralises stomach acid. How ever it works I am going to have to try it as normal creatine mono and CEE don't do much for me. 
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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2010, 10:17:54 AM » |
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There's different ways to look at the Ph scale, and absolutely, in technical terms, that's the normal unit of measure.....yet that can be extremely confusing to everyone involved.
I was just trying to simplify when I wrote the article.
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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2010, 12:32:55 PM » |
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Sooo........When is part IV 
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2010, 12:59:51 PM » |
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Garlick, I have heard many say that it is best to take kre-alkalyn on an empty stomach. I think it even says that on the bottle. Is this really necissary and if so could you explain to me why that is?
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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2010, 02:14:36 PM » |
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Reason is two fold.
1. interaction in the stomach. Creatine already is unstable, so by eating with it, you greatly adjust the PH levels in your stomach. First the foods you eat will either be acidic or a base by nature. So those will interact with the Creatine. Secondly, the more you eat, the more stomach acid gets released as a way of breaking down the food, again causing greater interaction with the food.
2. Creatine is not the smallest molecule, so by eating foods, you could block absorption, due to other nutrients getting absorbed first due to their smaller molecule size. Obviously, the smaller the faster it's absorbed through the stomach lining.
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2010, 02:41:06 PM » |
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Thanks for clearing that up for me
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2010, 07:01:29 PM » |
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Rep given Garlick, I always took it on empty and saw results, but never knew why. Youre the smartest bulb I know.
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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2010, 08:17:21 AM » |
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Would it be cool to take kre alkalyn on an empty stomach, but with vitamins..? I take a Multi, C, E, Fish oil, chondroitin and glucosamine, and potasium every morning when I take it..would that slow anything down?
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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2010, 10:00:38 AM » |
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Rep given Garlick, I always took it on empty and saw results, but never knew why. Youre the smartest bulb I know.
Agreed. Thank you garlick
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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2010, 10:29:29 AM » |
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Would it be cool to take kre alkalyn on an empty stomach, but with vitamins..? I take a Multi, C, E, Fish oil, chondroitin and glucosamine, and potasium every morning when I take it..would that slow anything down?
The only thing I would worry about is Calcium in the Mutli. Vitamin C works as a carrier for most compounds, as it helps the blood vessels bind to the compounds and attract them into the blood stream faster, so that's not a worry. Calcium, though, works almost the opposite way, it blocks the absorption of several different types of compounds, so if your multi has calcium, then I would wait to take that one. Chondroitin & Glucosamine will have little to no effect on absorption of Creatine, as they're larger than Creatine in compound size & weight, so they actually will be absorbed after the Creatine.
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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2010, 11:29:38 AM » |
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alright cool. man..ima start calling you doc. hahha thanks 
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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2010, 12:37:28 PM » |
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so Kre-Alkalyn 1500 is a good thing for gaining weight ??
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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2010, 02:45:35 PM » |
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so Kre-Alkalyn 1500 is a good thing for gaining weight ??
Creatine is not directly going to effect your weight. Creatine will increase strength, and allow you to push your muscles harder during the workout because they will have more energy, which in turn SHOULD allow you more growth, but that has more to do with how you workout, than the Creatine directly.
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« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2010, 02:57:34 PM » |
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What would a cycle of Kre Alkalyn be considered? I have been through 3/4 of a bottle o 120 capsules so far and would like to know if I need to get another or wait. I have made great gains in strength and size since taking and also with the combo of weight gainers. Any info would be helpful. Thanks for all you do.
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